Financing / Crowdfunding : Feeling Frustrated by Cathy Yeater

Cathy Yeater

Feeling Frustrated

Why does everything always have to be a catch 22? I started a Kickstarter to raise funds to hire a composer/lyricist for the Musical I am writing, but no matter how much I tweet or post to Facebook, I can't get anyone to donate. Several companies offer to promote my project, but I have to pay them to do that. If I could pay for people to promote my project, I wouldn't need a Kickstarter.

I'm a stay at home mom, my husband works 40 hrs a week, and gets a military pension, and we have just enough money to pay the bills, buy groceries, and occasionally do something (cheap) fun.

Tea Chai

Hi there. Have you considered contacting USC music students to see if they'd be interested in getting more for their reels? Student musicians have that need and you have a need for them. Also, there are plenty of composers on Stage32 to network with! Crowd funding is only really easy when you have a strong following already. Also, plenty of people you can call upon to donate small amounts so that it all adds up. It can be brilliant if you have it all set up already with attractive and appealing videos for a niche group you have been a part of for some time... but not as easy when you're just starting out without at least 500 followers on social media... Good luck!

Cathy Yeater

Thanks!

Rods Bobavich

You're not going to get traction until you have connections. It has to start there.

I've got a client right now that we are planning a coast to coast tour as a means to make a documentary. We will crowdfund. But right now it's the wrong time. What we are doing is figuring out a list of who we need to target to get traction. We've got a list of corporate sponsorships that we'd like to get and a list of types of people that will both go to shows and watch the documentary. We're working on Twitter to find and gather that audience.

I don't expect the crowdfunding to start until maybe the first round in November and the real round in January. But this is just like filmmaking. You have to figure out what the story is and craft your business to fit that narative. You can't just walk up to people on the street and ask them to donate to a cause they don't care about and expect $100k to come pouring in. You have to inspire them to give just like any other part of this art craft.

Bottom line.

If you aren't getting donors pouring in in the first few days the best thing you can do is shut down the campaign. Go back to the drawing board. Plan the story that you need to tell and the groups that you need to inspire and work with them so that they are begging you to make this movie... That's when you release your crowdfunding teaser.

Cathy Yeater

Which section would I post that in?

Cathy Yeater

Thanks! I did original write the outline as a stage production, and I may still do both adaptions. But with the recent resurgence of the Movie Musical, I think I am going to focus on that format first.

Elisabeth Meier

What about film subsidy from your state government? Is there any? Also ask local or national companies that might be interested in sponsoring such a musical. Coke sponsors films with money if you for example place duke box with a Coke commercial on it in your film set or show how people drink a Coke. Sometimes radio stations sponsor local music projects in their broadcasting area. Nike could be helpful, because of the sport aspect of dancers or so.... etc. You get the idea. But write personal letters and send it to the management in the HQ! Best of luck!

Cathy Yeater

Thank you!

Erik A. Jacobson

Why no sample of the music? Why no connection with popular social causes.? C’mon, Cathy. You seem like a bright person. Why haven’t you connected your crowdfunding project to a cause — helping underprivileged kids, monarch butterfly extinction, or whatever that will trigger an instant response? This isn’t rocket science. It’s Crowndfunding 101.

Cathy Yeater

First, I have no music to provide a sample of, and the movie is about teens who are bullied, so it is a cause...

Rods Bobavich

I've got some contact for you if you're interested. Either contact me here or on Twitter @theBobavich

Shara Ashley Zeiger

I coach this stuff if you need

Vasco Phillip de Sousa

Cathy,

You can just write the text, and pitch that direct to stage directors. They may know someone who can do the music. Mozart wrote his operas to existing texts.

Disney's screenplays are written before the music. You just use the parenthetical (singing). Sample scripts are online. Most musicals are written as a script first, and the music is added later by the production company (unless the composer and lyricist know each other.)

Ask yourself a question, are you a writer, or a producer? If you're just a writer, then getting the music isn't your job.

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