Post-Production : Adobe stops Cs6 by Simon © Simon

Adobe stops Cs6

Adobe is going to STOP selling CS6 at the end of the month. If you want it instead of leasing it....on the cloud. Where you have to be online to work....Pay a monthly subscription... Video Guys has a deal for 1600 for the editors pack, and for the master suite is 2500.

Derek Nickell

You don't have to work online to use CC. You load the software locally, login once to verify your user and then you can take it anywhere. I use CC and have edited on site. CC just gives your 20gb of cloud storage.

Simon © Simon

Yeah it's the login where you need to be online to use it or begin using it to clarify. Good Job on pointing that out.

Vincent Lowe

Actually, it's a widely held misconception that you have to be online to use Adobe Creative Cloud elements. That is not the case. You need to be online to download the software (like Premiere, After Effects or Photoshop) but after you have them downloaded and installed, the only time you need to be online is about once a month so that the software manager can check that your subscription is still okay. Even then, if you can't get online and it's been a month since the software checked for validity of license, you can still keep working until you get a chance to be online. If you do the math -- the monthly subscription over the course of a year for the full Creative Cloud is roughly equivalent to about 80% of the street price for just one element (such as Photoshop). I know it's fashionable to hate Adobe on general principle, but this is a case where they got something right. And at a time when Apple seems confused about what it wants to do, and Autodesk doesn't give an old shoe for your concerns unless you're working with a full-scale commercial budget for tools. I'm quite happy with CC and am really glad that Adobe chose to package it this way.

Bret Hampton

I, too felt like Vincent. I had to upgrade from CS6 to CC because I shot with a Sony F555 camera so new CS6 couldn't play the files. But now that I use it daily I'm enjoying the frequent updates of features. FYI, if you are a student at any recognized school, you can get the student price. Doesn't matter what class you take, just read the requirements and get a deal.

Simon © Simon

There are plenty of competitors. I do like Adobe due to their pro format / export and things of that nature. Like if I were you I would consider Adobe Audition to own. That software may get more 'bells and whistles' in later versions but even cs5 AU is pretty good to work with. Cs6 came out with a revamp and has some great benefits. which soon you will only have access (from what I see now) is to lease it. Hence the post of it is going away to own it. Sure Adobe pisses me off when a new codec comes out and they do not consider that an update to software they have just rolled out in last 12 months. Not like Cin4d wouldn't be a perk to pop for the new version or having a new effect pack I get it, Capitalism. However, there is catering to your clientele. Where they do not feel like they are BUYING antiquated merchandise on the next update. Unless you lease it. Or were giving it with a deep discount even for Retail not Students, etc. As for me and going on line for an update to start editing....nah. Go look at the forums. It used to be how to make this happen or that happen. Now it looks like a Windows update debacle over there....LOL!

Sten Ryason

There's also AVID, which, from a value standpoint, is more commonly used in the industry, and works on more than one platform. As for a VO artist, I'd probably look at Logic Pro on the Mac side (no idea what's appropriate on the Windows/Linux side).

Simon © Simon

Hi Sten, Avid was the second or third software I learned when starting to edit. Avid is indeed a staple in Broadcast. I believe they too went the way of the lease and soon may not be offering as Adobe did with the "Stop selling it... " We shall see. Fortunate for me I have been learning Blender and being open source they stay up with the new codecs. As there is always converters to uncompressed AVI if need be. However it still remains the same that soon you will not own the software. FWIW.

Andre Hunt

Correct me if I'm correctable, but isn't Blender all about paying for tutorials?

Andy Svensson

I still have Avid on Mac & Windows and then just change my old fashioned USB Key when using the Software on the other platform. Depends what my customer likes for data in the End, or where I have enough Harddisk storage for the project free.

Simon © Simon

Andre, One thing Blender does lack is a perfectly stacked hierarchy of tutorials, be them fee of or free. However, if you go to Youtube there are some guys over there like Oliver who is a paid, kind artist, who shares his lessons for free; at this time. I am sure soon his website will be subscription. I am glad I am learning it. I would've had to shell out 1000's to buy Maya or Adobe's or Cin4d's (kinda one in the same) version of what I am doing on Blender for free. Without antiquated versions due to the new release, and so forth. Blender is open source. There is always a codec converter for the challenges that Bret had to deal with. Then the bottom line is the output as Andy mentioned. I always ask what is the output format? Where is this going to be used? I think I will be fine as an owner of the old Cs6 platform coupled with Blender and a codec converter if I come across Bret's Challenge. I am sure if I were to be using new Codec, like I am sure 265 codec will not be supported as an update, or 8k in couple of years, that might be a challenge. So I might have to convert from 265 to avi uncompressed to circumvent the 265 for light great codec to record on in the new 2015 cameras and then a converter to edit and then export it back to AVI uncompressed and then convert to 265 for premium stream on the web. Rich color and pristine contrast. Thanks Adobe. LOL!

Vincent Lowe

Lease vs. purchase - and perpetual mortgage: look, it boils down to this. You can pay $300 for your editing software, or you could pay $50 per month for the cloud suite. But when you start editing, will you want After Effects? Add $200 more. Did you want Audition to get better handling of your sound? Add another $140. Oh! Did you want to use Photoshop to get advanced professional typography and color management? Call that $300. All in all, that was just $940 vs. the $600 for your subscription. But oh yeah, did you want to do color grading with Lightbox? Did you want to print BluRay volumes of your project with Encore? Did you want to place your new media property in a sophisticated website built with Dreamweaver? Maybe we should add another $500 to the mix! But wait, I left out a bunch of stuff that's in the CC. Maybe it would be fair to say that the "Purchase" option is worth $1200 and it's really only good for 18 to 24 months. (After that, if you're still working with your "bought" software, you're competing with adversaries who have much better tools.) In the "perpetual mortgage" option, you're out $1200 and on every single day, you've been using the latest version of your tool. Think like a business, and software subscriptions will make a lot more sense.

Derek Nickell

I second Vincent. The biggest reason I switched to CC over a year go.

Simon © Simon

Well in one more week it will be a mute point to buy it. Only Lease or renting will be available.

Simon © Simon

Hey Melanie have you ever tried Audacity? IF not check it out. I got by using that for a long time. I still have ACID and FrutyLoops too. When I need a sound studio it is there, always. It might not have an update, like my Android is running on two versions ago..I have always been of the mind set that if it is working I do not need a new one or an update. However with that thinking I guess Apple would not sell a new 600 phone every 17 months. LOL. Now there is a piece of equipment to lease. IF you gotta have the latest always.

Simon © Simon

Well leasing has it's advantages. Pending on application. Like Beer for instance. If I could go into a bar and lease a beer or two for half the cost...Great deal!

Ken Koh

I don't like to rent but own. I'm holding out with CS6 as long as possible until I need to switch because of codecs. May have to go back to Avid.

Luke Sheehan

They can have my subscription payment when they pry it from my cold, dead hands... Or like Ken, when I need to upgrade. There's that, too.

Bret Hampton

To Ken I too have CS6 (just bought 3 months before switching to CC) but the codecs forced the issue, and with the new features (especially ones ported over from After Effects) my workflow speed is improving and able to do things myself I normally might have to send out of house.

Ken Koh

I know I know. But I'm not needing any of that yet. Right now purely producing.

Simon © Simon

There again guys, although the CC does have some great import features from Cin4d but will cost to get all the gadgets with it. There is always a converter for codecs. Me.. I LOVE BLENDER. Free. I am in the studio with it now and composting green screen actors into 3d world and have great control of DOF and FOV. As far as AE goes well Red Giant and Mamo World got me covered. For the lates effect that is usually good for me too. That or stack an expression and make it myself. As far as editing goes, well Prem Pro Cs6 works great along with it's color correction. Unless they are going to create a new color or some new way to edit in a comprehensible fashion... I am sure CS5 could edit a feature film in today's market. After all, even 3d stuff has software to use that has nothing to do with Adobe. See Gravity making. However if it is a write off it's a write off. I used to have a 750+ tax car payment too. Why not spend it, enjoy it; instead of shipping it off to tax... I get it. But if you are indy not making the money it is nice to own as is the car. It is interesting though how a simple heads up about not being able to buy, turned into a leasing justification. Maybe it was the way i worded it. Looks like AVID is doing the same. I wonder if they are going to do the same?

Bret Hampton

I wonder if a big reason for Adobe starting subscription is to stop bootleggers from ripping off their software? I've heard from many who say the software's too expensive (a lot cheaper than tape editing suites) so maybe now they'll try the monthly model?

Simon © Simon

@Brett, maybe not, you can only have adobe on 2 comps at the same time. Not sure if they Police it well? Meaning can you add it to three or four before it alerts? Who knows. I think it is like car manufactures. The cars have gotten up there so for most it makes sense to rent or lease. Along with a CPA breeze for not schedule 1. A lease is 100%. I am not a CPA only a dumb bastard that paid too much taxes to send abroad.

Bret Hampton

Simon Adobe does keep track of how many computers you use. So for 3 or more you need CC for Teams. However it keeps track by versions you bought. For example I already bought CS6 as hard copy before getting CC, so separate registration for each, so I could have 2 computers for that and 2 more for CC.

Andre Hunt

Whenever I use my Adobe products, and many others, I go off lne.

Erwin Vanderhoydonks

That's why I use FCPX. Payed for it once. And I believe in the way it is designed. ;-)

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