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Thematic short movies without sound?

Hello Stage 32 as music composer been thinking: ok we are composing music and it might be used for some kind of picture motion (read movie). Q: Is there any thematic short movies without sound so we can use it for fulfill with sound. Just in opposite way. No music for movie, but movie for music...

Joel Irwin

To be honest, your question is somewhat confusing for me. Those creating short films, are often on a very small or no budget at all. If they use music at all, they go for 'creative commons' or some lo...

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Srdjan Todorovic

Joel, thank you for advice.

Songs and/or Score


Films often need songs as source music (background bar music, passing cars, etc). Is there anyone here that also writes songs in addition to scoring, or who solely writes songs and not score?

Vijay Siddharth

Yes I can do it.. I have written songs and I have written scores too.. Please find my works here: https://soundcloud.com/vijay-siddharth

Brian Lee Robinson

I just write songs at this point.

Allen Sebastian

Yup! I'm from India and like you may already know most of the indian films does consist of a list of songs, i have done for one movie a couple of yrs back when the director requested for some songs to move some stories and montages. i have also produced some songs aswell..

Brian Lee Robinson

I write mostly Country to Pop Music. Most of my songs are available at: http://reverbnation.com/BrianLeeRobinson I have a lot of Instrumental versions of my songs, as well.

Bartek Dzikowski

Hi, Greetings from Warsaw! I write songs and instrumentals. You can find them on my profile. Would be happy to cooperate with you. Have a great day! Bart

How do you approach scoring a feature?

I directed a feature-length documentary and have just hired a relatively fresh composer. It’s my second time going through this process but the first was many, many years ago. I’d appreciate hearing how composers generally craft their score and collaborate with the director. I’ve asked my composer t...

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Brian Alan DeLaney

I personally love reading scripts and getting a feel for what kind of themes and moods I want from that. If I get something in pre-production I will usually write some preliminary tracks to show the d...

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Geoff Koch

It depends on the preferences of the director. I've worked on scores where the director knows what he wants every moment down to the note and instrument, to one where he has no clue what he wants, to...

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Christopher McDonell

Thanks Geoff and Brian (I didn't see your response come in 3 weeks ago). I'm finding the temp music is helpful in establishing tone and tempo, and general mood. But the first composer I demoed (paid a...

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Non film influences

So thanks to Warren's influences thread, we know the film composers who inspire us- but I'm curious, what non-film composers have influenced you? Jazz, classical, pop, whatever!

Personally I'm a classical musician by training so influences include John Adams, Steve Reich, Shostakovich, Debussy, Rachmaninov, to name a few.

Jonathan Price

Inspired (and in some way influenced) by: Lully, Purcell, Telemann, Vivaldi, Bach, Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven, Mendelssohn, Rossini, Donizetti, Verdi, Bizet, Leoncavallo, Mascagni, Puccini, Strauss Jr.,...

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Matthew Pittaway

Bach, Beethoven, Bowie, Beatles, Debussy, Chopin, Motown, R -n- B, melodic Jazz (swing basie ellington Chick webb Satchmo etc) COuntry sux a lot of rap and hip hop inspires me lyrically musically they...

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Wesley Lawrence Curry II

Lyle Mays and Pat Metheny for the use of chord structure phrases......Dave Brubeck....Prokofiev BIG TIME.....Mahler.....Rachmaninof to name a few.

Bill Costantini

Oh man.....the song "Are You Going With Me?" .....Pat Metheny & Anna Maria Jopek (Stan's daughter) live....that song is just frigggggggggggin' amazing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iSiPjbS8_Q Wesle ...

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Devon Robbins

Ben Frost is a major influence of mine, but he is scoring films too now.

Internships for Young Film Composers

Hopefully there are others out there who can benefit from this topic. My degree program requires me to do an internship before I graduate. I've looked into programs offered by: Disney, Universal, FOX.... pretty much all of the programs offered by the big guys in the studio system, as that is my ulti...

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Joel Irwin

Brandi - I would think the internship prepared you well for the business and collaboration end. Tell us, if you choose, has the internship provided you with any real world artistic growth in the actua...

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Aashray Harishankar

Brandi - I hope this message finds you well. I realize am in a similar position that you were in 3 years ago, and was looking for some guidance. I am a composer and producer, graduating in May from St...

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Migdalia Torres

Hello everyone! Happy Saint Patrick's Day. I need help in writing a Stage Play for 3 Puppet Toy Bears. Can anyone tell me..."How to find material to write the Stage Play in a certain way". I mean I ...

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Joel Irwin

Migdalia - first of all, you placed your request at the end of a three year old post concerning music internships - obviously nothing to do with what you are asking. Secondly, there is a whole separat...

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Migdalia Torres

Thanks for the advice. I am New here and finding my way. Someone just emails me PlaySummissions.com and they are truly the Art of the Matter on Puppetry and Stage Plays. Thanks for the Guidance.

Non-Film Music.

Composers of Stage32, I was just wondering what kind of music you write when you are not writing film scores. I usually write (mostly) atonal chamber or orchestral works, or things with alternative melodic/harmonic systems.

What about you?

Noah Schatzline

Before I got into film music, I was heavily into the music of the second viennese composers. I still am to an extent. I love writing in the twelve tone method.

Joyce Kettering

I write mostly downtempo electronica, most often with an orchestral element to it (i.e. lush strings, warm trumpets, etc.)

Brian Lee Robinson

I write mostly Country-Pop music.

Brian Lee Robinson

My music can be found at: ReverbNation.com/BrianLeeRobinson I also have Instrumental versions of a lot of my songs.

Cello Cubano


Hip-Hop, Pop, R&B, Orchestral

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Joel Irwin

hmmm.... don't see the connection with film composing... looks like just like a promotion.

Beth Fox Heisinger

It's a Stage 32 event posted in all sections. See banner at the top of the site. And here's the S32 blog post: https://www.stage32.com/blog/Filmcon-Hollywood-2018. ;)...

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Video Slave 3

I'm just getting setup with Video Slave 3 (I really don't like that name). Right now I'm using the network MIDI send/receive built into my Macs to sync the video. I'm also pulling the dialogue on to a track in my DAW so no audio is coming out of Video Slave 3. Was curious if that's similar to how ot...

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John Zachary

Are you scoring to the Video Using what DAW.

Julian Montgomery

Hi John Zachary, yes I'm scoring to video using Cubase.

John Zachary

HI would you like to give me a call might have some tips to help.
252-469-2495 Im In Atlanta..

Pat Savage

Excellent John Zachary! Good on you! this is what our beloved Stage 32 is all about. Offering what you have to give to other creatives and opening doors and finding people to work with comes organical...

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Julian Montgomery

Hey John Zachary I'll hit you up sometime today.

Favorite Music Score of all time and why?

Just curious. Maybe because Sunday are the Oscars/.

Joel Irwin

The most awarded musical of all time - 10 Oscars in all (I think it is one four or is it five films to ever get 10 or more Oscars).... West Side Story. Nuff said....

Fred Emory Smith

ET. Well for me its more personal as its a film I enjoyed watching over and over again as I kid. But the melodic themes are just incredible!

Steven Harris Anzelowitz

thanks

Shara Maude

Trevor Jones for The Dark Crystal.

Steven Harris Anzelowitz

Thanks.

How much in advance Music Composers want to be involved in a film project?

I'm a director and writer currently on development of my debut feature. As I understand, soundtrack composition starts in post-production during or after the first cut. However, I want to get involved in my team composers that love the story of the script and that I know that their creativity emanat...

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Francisco Casals

THANK YOU Joel Irwin , Allen Lynch and Jonathan Price for your feedback!!! As a multidiscipliinary artist I have always loved music as an artistic vehicle, as an emotional expression but also fascinat...

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Joel Irwin

I am being hired to write music to support the action - very specific action at various points. The music needs to add to tension or surround and envelope you when two people kiss. These hit points ca...

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Jonathan Price

I think you'd find a lot of composers that are comfortable with both scoring to picture and scoring from a script. The latter is similar to composing a tone poem or an opera.

Wesley Lawrence Curry II

This is really a question most thought of well before you asked it. I simply (internally) demand a chance to work with a director on not just the 'tones' and arrangements of an original score....but s...

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Joel Irwin

Wesley - just to quickly diverge - studying and listening to composers from before say 1970 is very important to any serious music creative. And many people who paid attention to say Bernard Hermann,...

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Afflict The Comfortable

I walked in my first composition class of the semester today really upbeat.  Since the end of the Spring semester, I scored 7 films (one never released) and of those 6 released, one won 'best score', one was nominated for 'best score', and the documentary I scored won for 'Best Documentary'.  I deci...

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Ronald Atkinson

Great advice! And some of those comments sound a lot like what my composition professor would say!

Kerry Kennard

Though, you won. Yes, still good advice to listen to others. I heard a good critique of one piece at Mix Me / FB group.

Russ Whitelock

One of the hardest (to hear) yet the best piece of advice given me was - "Beautiful theme BUT WAY OVER USED"! I tend to weave the central theme throughout the film in various ways and with different o...

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Wesley Lawrence Curry II

I am brutishly cadenza'd, Joel. And....a little bit confused, I got a message (I think from you, please forgive me if I am incorrect) from you on icomposition and haven't found the piece you spoke abo...

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Joel Irwin

hmm... i looked through all my private messages back four years and did not see anything with you. The full score referred in this post above was for "The Last Command" which premiered last Aug in LA...

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Oscars

Hi Everyone! It's been a while since I've posted. Who does everyone think is going to snag the oscar for best original score this year? What scores do you think were snubbed?

Linwood Bell

I sure hope Keala has a great performance of This is Me. She use to sing jing for me. What a little powerhouse she is. Always sings it like she means it, as you should.

Dara Taylor

I too think that Desplat will probably win, but I'm rooting for Burwell.

Allen Lynch

Dara, I usually root for the underdog. Hey Linwood! Who do you think will take it this year? When did Keala sing for you?

Linwood Bell

I'm with you guys with Desplat. I listen to it often, but still haven't seen the movie. I need to get out more!! It's been a long time since I've seen/worked with Keala. Like 15 years or so. Of course...

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Jonathan Price

+1 Desplat

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