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Counter-melody

Here's a chance for those of you/us who create music to get down and dirty. I am certain there are multiple opinions on this and no easy answer. Last week I brought in one of my recent scores for review/critique in a composition class I am taking. The feedback I received, suggested that as this was...

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Jonathan Price

Good counterpoint naturally creates counter-melodies, since the point of it is to create voices that are both harmonically dependent yet independent lines in and of themselves. In my Main Title to RUS...

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Linwood Bell

Beautiful piece, Jonathan. Thanks for sharing it.

Joel Irwin

Nice stuff Jonathan. And now I want to get a bit 'techie'. This may be splitting hairs and not be exactly what other people call 'countermelody'. But here is my take - for me, melody moves so when the...

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Jonathan Price

Yep, that's why I posted RUSTIN. It's not a traditional sense of counter-melody but, strictly speaking, any good counterpoint contains counter-melodies. In RUSTIN, you could take the VLN II/VLA line a...

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Kerry Kennard

Joel, I was trying to relate to ... no need to have more than one instrument/staff playing counter-melody at a time, ... to how Dorico handles notes. Know you're going for the Counter-Melody and music...

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Music Software

Was wondering what editing software you all use when it comes to placing your music into a film to make sure it matches. I use old school windows movie maker but really need to get something better. In general, what software do you use to create your compositions. Any recommendations? Thanks.

Wesley Lawrence Curry II

When I am working on a Score.....My DAW is Logic Pro X. The Director sends film edits to me in DropBox, which I download to my computer. I place the Film Clips into Final Cut Pro X. And also into Logi...

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Joel Irwin

I use Sibelius 7 (under Win 7/64). It allows me to use the same score to produce the WAV file for the film, charts if performed live and scores that I can have reviewed/feedback (since most of the peo...

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Matthew Pittaway

used an old 1998 version of cakewalk to produce these tunes (click link...scroll down a bit) ~RevPops http://www.hishousemedia.com

John Bennett

I used to just an older version of Cakewalk (I think it was 8.5) but switched to Cubase a few years back. It's a lovely interface for MIDI but I don't tend to use it for the actual mixdown. That I lea...

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Chris Brann

I am a Protools veteran but recently using Adobe Audition because it integrates better with Premiere.

Stereo Soundtrack Ends Up Sounding Mono

I just posted this in Facebook but seems relavant here as well. This has happened to me in at least three of the films I have scored in recent years. Here is a heads up for anyone doing their editing using Avid. I have had one film this year and recently a version of a 2015 film play back in "mono" i ...

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Ken Koh

It's a phase problem not an avid problem, look in the audio suite and use 'invert' that'll solve it. Could be the way your camera converts the audio or whatever software compression you're using. If not, check your wiring could be wired incorrectly internally it's happened before to me once.

Joel Irwin

Ken - not sure I understand your point. I write music and supply it normally to the audio editor as a single 16-bit WAV file (mostly 44.1 but sometimes 48). Most of the time, the audio editor mixes it...

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Ken Koh

What daw are you using?

Shawn Speake

Okay... but why go to the link?

Joel Irwin

looks like a link to music - probably posted in the wrong lounge.

Benchmark

Webster defines "Benchmark" as: "something that can be used as a way to judge the quality or level of other, similar things".  How could this apply to our creative abilities or for here, for our compositions, scores or other musical output?  There are two ways of looking at this: (1) we can use a be...

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Secluded Beauty by JoelIrwin | iCompositions - Music
Secluded Beauty by JoelIrwin | iCompositions - Music
This is my 'benchmark' orchestration. It was the first one I ever did. I did it totally by ear in a sequencer ignoring the bar lines and quantization. The amazing thing is I composed it the summer bef…
Jonathan Price

It's a great exercise I use daily. That sense of perspective can be compressed to hours if you work at it. I felt I got there when I was mixing mockups for Chris Young to send to Lasse Halstrom, who w...

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Matthew Pittaway

I hear music in my head. I have over 100 copyrights. I compose classical to rock, jazz to blues, pop to punk. I however cannot get a job they say I am autistic savant I say everyone here is stupid as...

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Rachel Walker

Hi Joel :-) My first attempt at film score is on my website at www.rachelwalkertrio.com under the film score section. I actually enjoyed it. It would be much more fun to have a film score to follow an...

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Joel Irwin

Listened to your music - both vocal and instrumental. Here is an idea - a few days ago I watched the film, "Darrow And Darrow" - a legal/trial film on the Hallmark Movies & Mysteries channel (www.imdb...

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John Bennett

Hi Joel, This is one of the first pieces I wrote back about 9 years ago: https://vimeo.com/235260971 And here are two things I wrote recently: https://vimeo.com/235260659 https://vimeo.com/235260815 I found ...

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Do You Live In LA?

This is part of an email convesation I had one week ago today: I saw a posting for acting auditions and sent a message to the production company asking if they needed a composer on that project. The subject of the emails (their subject, not mine) was, "Composer, Yes!" XXX FILMS: >Perfect timing, Joel!  ...

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Jakub Micuch

Hi Joel, yes this is sad true. People are afraid in some way from online collaboration. I don't know why. But. Today with possibilities of technology which we have it doesn't make sence. I worked for...

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I have 3 copyrighted Animated scripts. Does anyone know how to license the BIG BAND music that Woody Allen used to score my films.

Realize I could GOOGLE it. And realize there is ASCAP involvement. However over the last 3 years of membership, I prefer to ask our fellowship first. RYAN

Joel Irwin

Steven - Contact barry@musicsupervisor.com I know him personally. Friendly, honest and trustworthy guy. He and his site are hooked into all the major studios. He can help you with your problem. You can say I referred you.

Steven Harris Anzelowitz

Joel Irwin Thank you for the link. I will pass it on to my Music Director.

Wesley Lawrence Curry II

Why use Woody, when you can get me to compose the exact same sound with fresh tunes instead. Wont cost you much. (its not the masturbating that I like so much as the cuddling afterwards). Woody Allen quote.

Matthew Pittaway

OMG I have hundreds of unused tunes and have turned down record deals I know they are hits....wtf.

Non film influences

So thanks to Warren's influences thread, we know the film composers who inspire us- but I'm curious, what non-film composers have influenced you? Jazz, classical, pop, whatever!

Personally I'm a classical musician by training so influences include John Adams, Steve Reich, Shostakovich, Debussy, Rachmaninov, to name a few.

Meraxes Soneu

Thank you Joanna! I think I know what you guys mean. By isolating yourself you look for your truly original sound more carefully without interferences. On the other hand, influences are the base of wh...

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Wesley Dinwiddie

Some of my all time favorite musicians had actually gone on to compose for TV & Film - Trent Reznor, Atticus Ross, Charlie Clouser... funny too because they were all in the same band at one point or another :)

Matthew Pittaway

Help! I hear music in my head. I have over 100 copyrights. I compose classical to rock, jazz to blues, pop to punk. I however cannot get a job they say I am autistic savant I say everyone here is stup...

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Jonathan Price

Inspired (and in some way influenced) by: Lully, Purcell, Telemann, Vivaldi, Bach, Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven, Mendelssohn, Rossini, Donizetti, Verdi, Bizet, Leoncavallo, Mascagni, Puccini, Strauss Jr.,...

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Matthew Pittaway

Bach, Beethoven, Bowie, Beatles, Debussy, Chopin, Motown, R -n- B, melodic Jazz (swing basie ellington Chick webb Satchmo etc) COuntry sux a lot of rap and hip hop inspires me lyrically musically they...

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The Man Hiding Behind The Curtain

In the film business, especially us composers, we present our artistic products in front of a live audience in abstentia.  Its like being in my opinion 'the man behind the curtain' (aka Wizard Of Oz).  That protects us in some sense but also insulates us from participation with the audience.  It is...

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Matthew Pittaway

any relation to shane irwin producer in Nashville?

Matthew Pittaway

I Have a red hot true story for a netflix series. need writer/s. revPopsI Have a red hot true story for a netflix series. need writer/s. revPops

Doodles (One)

Just doodling around, I don't know if any of you composers do this...you know...just get to feeling like playing your instrument with absolutely no particular 'job' or reason for it other than the joy of playing music. https://clyp.it/5m4lzdsj

Wesley Lawrence Curry II

Here Is a picture of my piano. I sometimes wonder what would have happened if I had gotten Bagpipes instead.

Wesley Dinwiddie

Ah yes :) the Hip-Hop artists piano (no offense to anyone who writes hip-hop of course)

Wesley Lawrence Curry II

I use it to to practice scales.

Matthew Pittaway

I hear music in my head. I have over 100 copyrights. I compose classical to rock, jazz to blues, pop to punk. I however cannot get a job they say I am autistic savant I say everyone here is stupid as...

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Why Piano?

Many of us (including me) got our musical start on either piano or guitar.  So two things are very natural as we have moved toward film composing - (1) we tend to rely heavily on the instrument we are most comfortable with and (2) we tend to make any other instruments or sounds through our experienc...

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Joel Irwin

postscript - having thought about this for the last day, I decided to upgrade from the entry version of Sampletekk's C7 to its full version "7CG MKII for $50 (prices currently 50% off, a full non-upgr...

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Bruce Bray

I am a guitar player, but I use the piano just as much. I find the piano is so suited to moving around the melody. At least getting the first notes that I have in my head down. But once I have that, I...

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Kerry Kennard

This one submission for HL, I wrote using piano and violin first, after listening to other examples. Playing drums, it was last this time, adding Timpani for added effects within piece. If I’m doing j...

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Adjustments For Low Volume Mixes

I am not an audio engineer so this question is more for those of you work with or are sound editors/audio engineers. I believe that as music volume gets lower, we tend to not be able to hear the the edges of the sound spectrum as well - the lower frequencies/bass and the higher frequencies/treble - w ...

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Wesley Lawrence Curry II

This is a very interesting Topic, and one that deserves much attention. In the last film I created the score for, the music was mixed into the film Twice. The first time, by me and another sound engin...

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