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s16mm Film

Hello all, I recently posted a thread to ask what all the 4k hype was about, and more so to get some good info on what is best to shoot on this day in age in terms of final product and distribution. Here's the link to the thread: https://www.stage32.com/lounge/cinematography/4k-or-not-to-4k I got a ton ...

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Royce Allen Dudley

I made a living shooting S16mm in the 90's and into mid 2000's. Lots of it was indie narrative feature, but also broadcast, commercials, music videos...then it all changed virtually overnight, over 10...

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Andrew Sobkovich

Why Super 16? What do you see as the strong points that swayed your decision in its favour for the specific picture you are doing? What were the negatives and how will you minimize the impact of those...

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4k or not to 4k?

Hello all, I am no cinematographer so my question, although practical in terms of anticipating shooting my first feature, is purely out of curiosity and based on what I've read. The basic question is: Why do I need to shoot 4k? It seems like 4k has just kind of blown up over night, with all kinds of ...

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Vidit Upadhyay

Well, i think 4k add details to your shot. But all depends on your requirements. Post Production in 4k demands good system and heavy data rate.

Royce Allen Dudley

Super 16 is an interesting choice in 2018... But not a bad one by any means.

J G Blodgett

Royce Allen Dudley Yeah, I realize it is almost unconventional at this point in time but I am really looking forward to achieving the aesthetic of the s16 film.

Alex Darke

I wrote a post that goes into this topic, if you are interested in reading it: http://cinemasummit.com/7-guerrilla-filmmaking-blunders-avoid/...

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J G Blodgett

Alex Darke Thank you for the article. It was very informative. I am looking at having to shoot in 4k do to Producer's request, despite my wanting to shoot on 2k raw, or s16mm film. Nothing set in ston...

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Shooting Outdoors

I am working on a project that's outdoors. It's a sort of survivalist horror film. Does anyone know how I can shoot nature (the woods) to look eerie or looming sense of dread that comes with being outside. Thanks Shane

Anthony J Jefferson

I wood assume a smog factor works gloomy overcast and smog makes the scene appear like something is coming in the air

Tadeo F Phillips

Hi Shane, how are you? do you need a storyboard artist?

Gordon Clatworthy

Is it a day or night time shoot? how are you filming it? is it found footage? there's a lot of tricks to get a shot outdoors to look eerie. if someone is running from someone use a wide lens to place...

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Alex Darke

I think of the dread of being in the woods coming from not knowing if there's something lurking around the corner or in a bush. So highlighting those moments with good sound design - the sound of the...

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Camera change

Hi guys. I'm thinking about equipment change last days. I have pretty good Canon C100mkII what is really greate piece. But I am really missing some better recording codec there. It's record HD - 8bit - h264 what is not wery well for editing. The external recorder has no value, cause output there is...

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Jakub Micuch

FS7 can record RAW internaly, so there is no reason to use atomos I think. But also have a SDI outputs, so if you will need attach Atomos there, you should go through SDI to get 10bits signal. But as...

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David Trotti

Thanks Jakub. I appreciate the information. For me using the Atomos with the A7sii is more to prevent overheating and extend the take durations. It also serves as a nice monitor where I can apply LUTs ...

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Jaap Ruurd Feitsma

I'm not a fan of the Ursa Mini 4K camera. The sensor is not as good as the 4.6k and the Ursa Mini Pro (regardless of resolution).

Jakub Micuch

Jaap thanks for answer. So 4.6k is better? Is it a abig difference?

David, this is interesting. My friend photographer also said that he doesnt like sony lenses, he wanted some backup body and looks for an a7sii but because of that lenses he choosed canon mirrorless.

Jaap Ruurd Feitsma

I'm sorry, I hadn't noticed your reply! The 4.6K (especially the Pro) works way better in low-light, for starters. It also offers more ISO options. The 4.6K and the 4.6K Pro have the same sensor, but...

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4th Wall

Using the fourth wall is known to sometimes give the effect of bring the viewer closer to the film or project being shown on the screen as a more immersive experience. From a small moment to build feeling (The final shot of The Revenant) to a more upfront method (Ferris Buller's constant involving o...

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Royce Allen Dudley

Breaking the fourth wall can be done once for punctuation, at the beginning or the end of the film. If you do it in the middle of the story it can be jarring or effective. Your example of Ferris Buell...

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Arri super16

Anyone know anyone who happens to have an Arriflex Sr2 Sr3 or 416 sitting around collecting dust... I'm getting ready to direct our first super16 shoot and it would be a huge relief on the budget to find a camera cheaper (or free) compared to most rental houses... Any ideas?

Gregory Green

I'm wondering that, too.

JD Hartman

You don't shoot on film to save money, you shoot on film to get a certain look to your finished work. DP's that regularly shoot film have already done the math showing how film is not prohibitively mo...

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Royce Allen Dudley

People tend to shoot film for the aesthetic. Everything has a cost. People tend to choose where to spend their own money on their own film. What JD said about overshooting is absolutely correct. Peopl...

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Garrett Adams

Thanks for the input everyone! I knew ahead of time the cost of shooting on film and I knew I wouldn't be saving any money by doing that. I just figured if anyone had the equipment personally I could...

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J G Blodgett

Very cool, Garrett!! I would very much like to see how it turns out, as well as get some of your feedback on your experience shooting on 16mm. I have always been interested in shooting a feature on 16mm.

DSLR Cameras

Attention cinematographers. Any recommendations for best DSLR to shoot and indie film indoors with low light?

Tony Martinez

Thanks guys!

Royce Allen Dudley

I am no fan of DSLRs for cinema, but that said, the Sony A7sII have all but replaced Canon on professional sets that choose DSLRs. If low light was not a concern, I would recommend the Panasonic GH4 or 5 with caveats regarding optics (Metabones a prerequisite).

Camille Mikem

Canon 1DX Mark II

Ken Koh

DSLRs are great and the Canon 1DX produces great images, but it also very much depends on the lens you use. Where budget is small I recommend using CP.2 T1.5 on your dslr. It's well machined and you get good gears for your focusing and aperture. Nice coating too.

J G Blodgett

If you are going to spend that much on a DSLR why not just spring for a good Cinema Camera? There are some great products on the market that will give you a fantastic picture, low light or good light,...

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C100 Mark II

Has anyone had any experience with the C100 Mark II? If so have you used it on a gimbal or glidecam? what would you recommend to use for moving shoots?

Ken Koh

The best price performance is definitely the Steadicam Merlin 2 ($199 B&H). I have used the C100 on it with a wide prime and nothing else, a little on the heavy side but works if it's completely strip...

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Ken Koh

I would also add the fig rig. I own both.

Justin Lim

Fig Rig is Awesome. It's just quick to use and produces great results.

Jakub Micuch

The best way is DJI Ronin-M. C100mkII is too heavy camera for glidecams.

2017 Scorsese TV Special

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Hello

There best DSLR out ther now is the Sony A7s, it’s a full width sensor with incredible capabilities of low light, I personally own One and the flexibility is amazing. You can put just about any Lena on it. Shoots also at 120fs... hope this helps...

Red Weapon 8K

Anyone has experience with this?

Andrew Sobkovich

Ken if you are testing it make sure to test resolution in both "8K" and "4K" settings. The actual resolution at the end of the post path is what you have, counting photosites on the sensor is not. As...

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Ken Koh

I'll definitely be comparing 4k vs 8k. But I'm most interested because I was emailed about the low light capability. It won't be a proper full day test, my interest is using it for future documentaries. I'm using whatever lens they got there. They don't have charts? I'll find out.

Andrew Sobkovich

Its RED. If you bring your own charts, meters, lenses, etc, you KNOW what you are using. If you can, bring enough storage for all of your material. Oversee the transfers and note the duration of the p...

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Ken Koh

OK, I will do that. Never knew about the V35 low light is there is link you send me?

Andrew Sobkovich

Ken you can use the official page as a starting point. http://pro-av.panasonic.net/en/varicam/35/ At 5000asa, a T2.0 lens shooting at 24fps and 1/48th of a second, 1fc is full exposure. it is astounding ...

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Anamorphic Adapters

Hi I've been toying with the idea of shooting a short film with the C300 Mark ii and an anamorphic adapter - like the lotus 35or SLR magics. Has anyone had experience with them? Thoughts, suggestions, ideas & opinions appreciated.
Mark Vadik

David Timber

Sounds interesting. I haven't had the opportunity to experience that combination, but I would like to find out.

Royce Allen Dudley

Because you like oval bokeh, or ? Serious question; what benefit do you expect over a mere crop-shoot 2:35/2:40? No need to explain anamorphic, I am curious why you want to stack optics.

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