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Nick Assunto - Stage 32 Script Services Coordinator
First Film to Feature All Songs and No Score?

Hey I suddenly became very curious about this and can't quite find the answer online. Does anyone know what the first film to feature only songs from other artists on the soundtrack and no original score is, if there even is one? I'm seeing some answers online might be THE BIG CHILL or THE GRADUATE but I can't confirm and would love a source.

Ted Westby

Really groovy question, Nick. I don't have THE GRADUATE at my fingertips, and can't confirm the "no score" bit, but it's a good candidate. HAROLD AND MAUDE jumped into my brain but I believe Cat Steve...

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Joel Irwin

Woody Allen is known as far as I know to not use composers in his films - only pre-recorded commercial tracks (often from the 1930s to the 1950s). Check out his early films - his first feature, for ex...

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Nick Assunto - Stage 32 Script Services Coordinator
Sample Tracks to Post?

Hey composers! Do you all have any samples you don't mind sharing or want to post in this thread?

Kent Karlsson

Thanks Nick! Here's a link to my composer's reel https://soundcloud.com/kentkarlsson/sets/composer-reel

Joe Galuszka

Hi Nick, hope you’re well? Feel free to hit joegaluszka.co.uk/music in your search bar- would love to hear your thoughts !

Nathan Britton

I have a huge catalogue of eclectic royalty-free music I would love to see in the community's productions: www.soho.live/nathan

Federico Aletta

Hello Nick! Here is my soundcloud playlist with many different sounds, textures and emotions. Thanks, Federico.

https://soundcloud.com/fukahire-films/sets/fukahire-soundtracks...

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Kacee DeMasi
Any song writers in this lounge?

Wondering if there are any composers who write songs with lyrics on this platform as I am looking for a song for my upcoming docu-series? I have some of the words for the song but not sure how to put it all together. Thought maybe someone on this platform could help. Thank you

Kacee DeMasi

Rosalind Winton Socks Whitmore I would assume it would eventually be a paid job as I currently have over 7 producers interested in two of my projects and I am looking for songs for the series. I alrea...

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Rosalind Winton

Kacee

I did put the link to my web page in my post, but I don't think it worked, here it is again.. http://www.onevoiceliteraryagency.com/my-music-and-other-projects.html - thank you for explaining, th...

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Socks Whitmore

Kacee DeMasi Cool! I have a number of samples on my website's music page at https://sockswhitmore.com/composer, and more throughout the rest of my site. You're welcome to PM me as well to talk further...

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Christian "Ian" Lavesores

Maybe I can help. I've been writing popular songs for over 12 years. If lucky, I can write potential hit songs.

I'm new here so I don't have a complete profile. You can check my SoundCloud: www.soundc...

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Nathan Britton

Hi Kacee! Drop me an message with the lyrics & the mood of the documentary. I'm sure I can help compose/produce something (& can also source additional musicians or singers if required) https://www.so...

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Alan Anibal
Hiring Musicians to record soundtrack

Hello everyone!

I have some friends who who kindly offered to play my compositions for film. However, I'm worried about any implications that may appear once I'm entering in a world that have union and copyrights rules.

Do you guys have any advice about:

-Making contracts with performers?

-What is the...

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Navid Lancaster
Karen "Kay" Ross

Thanks for the question and the love, and thank you Navid Lancaster for the suggestion of the blog! The biggest concern is just making sure you have the right to use the music. After that, whether or...

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Alan Anibal

Thank you Guys! This content is very useful!

Christopher Michael Lacey
Songs for FILM and TV

I am a Recording Artist, and Actor. I have a song I wrote that I would love to get it in Film and TV. What would be the best way to achieve this? Today: https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/Q9agcrPuEDXJf4GU9

Today (Featuring Ernest Hampson) by C Mykhl
Today (Featuring Ernest Hampson) by C Mykhl
Written by: Christopher Michael Lacey Featured Guitarist: Ernest Hampson from Natural Stanger Music Produced by: Christopher Michael Lacey for Xtra Sick Publishing. Vocals Produced by: Elijah "Wolf" B…
Christopher Michael Lacey

Thank you so much Joel! I really appreciate it!!!!

Karen "Kay" Ross

GREAT advice, Joel Irwin , especially #3!

Tim Bragg

Chris. I actually like your song Today.

Christopher Michael Lacey

Thank you Tim! I really appreciate it!!!!

Tim Bragg

Chris. where have you been? Did you look at the monologue you requested?

Christopher Birk
Music Composing for Exposure

One of the biggest problems I often face with my productions is music. I always end up searching for non-copyrighted existing music everywhere and sometimes I find what I need and sometimes it's sub-par to say the least. But that's unfortunately one of the things that's often difficult, or impossibl...

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Joel Irwin

Karl - learning from the masters is crucial to growth. In addition to the 'obvious', don't forget to read classic texts like Nelson Riddle's arranging book

https://www.amazon.com/Arranged-Nelson-Riddle...

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Juan Maria Solare

Some thoughts on the "Work for me for free" approach. Please don't take this personal:

1. an absolute beginner wanting to build up their portfolio might agree with making music for a shortfilm for fr...

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Nathan Madsen

Working for exposure hardly ever works out. The amount of exposure needed to really outweigh paying someone is such a high bar that it's rare to have something like that really happen.

Trades are a bi...

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Juan Maria Solare

Nathan Madsen your words remind me what my brother once told me: "never play a concert for free, because they will not call you when there is something important".

Nathan Madsen

Yup! Precisely.

Fabian Siebecke
How To Separate Music From Voice Lines And Other SFX?

Hello there,

I have an old web-series, where I would like to do a remaster of editing wise, but my problem is I can't or don't want to use the music I used in the original cut anymore. I don't have the original files anymore. Is there a way or a program that can separate the soundtrack from the voice...

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K. M. Joshi

Hmm, I could actually try it. I do have the tools for doing just that (mostly for reviving antique films), but the end result really depends on what the original audio is like. My process would be to...

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Karen "Kay" Ross

It's intended for Karaoke, but I found this article that walks you through how to take out vocals for karaoke tracks. https://www.gadgethacks.com/how-to/remove-vocals-from-any-song-make-kara......

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Music and the creative process

Hey guys

So I am not a musician. I actually started violin in 4th grade, and only lasted a year.

And the thing is, I listen to alot of music, even the same things over and over again

examples are Rush's 2112 and assorted works of Pink Floyd, etc...

And it's like, I've had this idea for a Rock Opera ab...

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Karen "Kay" Ross

Music always stirs up images for me, too! Also, I think with only one sense being engaged, your mind grasps for pairings (with only a stationary visual, we want to put motion to it; with only music, w...

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Daniel Patrick Murrell
Advice

Hi All, it feels great to be apart of a forum like this. I’m a composer and receive such good freedback from the unpaid projects I’ve worked on providing original score.

If anyone would like to give me any advise or feedback that could help me gain more opportunities working for free on a bigger sca...

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Daniel Patrick-Murrell
Daniel Patrick-Murrell
Daniel Patrick-Murrell, Music Composer, Artiste/Writer assisting within commercial advertising/Film providing original score. I would like to hear from anyone interested in exclusive or non exclusive…
Joel Irwin

There is constantly stuff being done both online and live. I had to bow out this past Oct to be on a competitive team. All three major cities in Texas - Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio had a 48 hour...

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Daniel Patrick Murrell

Hey Joel, this is perfect for me, I’ve just signed up and should be able to navigate my way around the sites in no time.

I couldn’t be more grateful.

I’ll be sure to post any breakthroughs with regards to it all.

Karen "Kay" Ross

Thank so much for reaching out! And thank you Irwin for such a detailed response! Definitely keep tabs on the Jobs Section of Stage32: https://www.stage32.com/find-jobs I would second that - work find...

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Daniel Patrick Murrell

Thank you Karen, another pleasant surprise having your advice.

You’ve been involved in so much great things, congratulations on it all and what’s to come.

Thanks Daniel

Karen "Kay" Ross

You are most welcome, Daniel! Glad to have you here! Keep going, and keep us posted!

George DeLorean
A Heavy Metal Requiem Mass

Hello one and all. I'm posting here at the behest of Karen Kay Ross. This is a huge project I started a decade ago, which is now in its fourth and final iteration. With a run time at about 90 minutes, it's neither too long, or too short. It features six soloists, a sometimes polyphonic SATB choir, a...

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George DeLorean

Hi, Sabina. Would you like to learn more about it? I'm open to answer any questions you may have.

Karen "Kay" Ross

Such a cool project, George DeLorean! What are you up to next?

Linwood Bell

That's always fun. I've done many arrangements for rock bands when they get the chance to work with an orchestra and choir. I'll be glad when the concerts return...

George DeLorean

Hi, Karen. I have many projects in the pipeline. I have some standalone pieces, a musical, and three operas at the minimum.

George DeLorean

I'll be thrilled, Linwood!

Alan Anibal
Instrumentalists versus vocalists

Hello Everyone!

I'm stopping by after the suggestion of our dear friend Kay Ross!

Is there a difference when working with instrumentalists versus vocalists?

Yes! First of all, Vocalists need to be accompanied and supported, which adds a new challenge when you have to fit music to a tempo that would se...

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Karen "Kay" Ross

Ooo, that's a really good point, Alan Anibal! I knew about the accompanist, but I didn't consider the philosophy behind vocals - that makes sense! In a way, I think that's why I love Hanz Zimmer's wor...

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Joel Irwin

For production/performance purposes, I have always treated vocalists as if they were instrumentalists. I look to put all my performers whenever possible into their best range and I try to get them to...

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Rachel Walker

Interesting topic, as a singer and musician, I feel the voice is an instrument, can follow the abstract sound if needed, lyrics too, instrumental peices can enhance the mood of the screne, as intended...

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Roger Hewett
Best notation software

Hi fellow musicians/composers!

I'm in the midst of an orchestral arranging project, the first of several lined up for this year. However, I replaced my Mac last year, rendering my trusty Sibelius 7 software apparently useless. Avid, the Sib's developer, no longer seem to offer the product without an...

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Roger Hewett

Joanna Karselis ...that was my first impression on opening it last night! I'm not sure if I have the capacity to learn another complete software from scratch! I will take a closer look, (I have a 30-d...

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Joel Irwin

Last time I checked, which was many months ago, it required separate costing licenses for each of my desktop (for my studio) and laptop (which I take on the road and for demos). That makes it pricey....

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Navid Lancaster

Hi how are you doing? I'm a Musescore user for years. They have just upgraded to Version 3.6. It's free by the way for both Mac and Windows.

The explanation of the upgrades will take too long for me to...

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Alan Anibal

I have worked as editor in a Sao Paulo Opera theatre, at that time I used Finale. I knew all the short cuts and they would make much sense in my mind. The "SCs" were also very helpful with limited tim...

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Roger Hewett

Thank you so much for your suggestions and comments, guys & gal!

My current arrangement is just about ready to score. FYI, I usually create an audio demo in DP first, then upon client-approval, quanti...

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