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Joanna Karselis
Oscar Best Score 2018

What do people think of the Oscar noms? Any scores people feel missed out?

Diandra Anne Mamo
"The One for The Other" - Beautiful Song worth sharing!

I've recently viewed on French TV a live broadcast of their song selections for the Eurovision. While i'm not myself much of a fan and watch it more to spot out new good songs, it was the first time i was seeing France in this selection process.

So I was blessed to hear and discover such a beautiful...

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Composing music for movies.

Hi Guys! HNY! Are rock bands used to compose music for movies, or is the work done by other musicians? Sorry if this is a dumb question. Thx!

Allen Lynch

Rock bands/musicians can be used to compose music for films. Just depends on the type of score that you are looking for. Most film composers come from a variety of backgrounds and have some additional musical training (composition, etc).

Robert Franklin

Thx!

Ellen Golden

If you go to different licensed music sites - many, many rock bands have their tracks in these sites that will possibly get picked up and used in a film. These sites have different qualities of music...

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Joel Irwin

Robert, here is one more which I know of which has placed music in Oscar nominated and winning films. It is called "Musicsupervisor.com". When a completed commercial piece of music is placed in a film...

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Robert Franklin

Thx

Joel Irwin
Counter-melody

Here's a chance for those of you/us who create music to get down and dirty. I am certain there are multiple opinions on this and no easy answer. Last week I brought in one of my recent scores for review/critique in a composition class I am taking. The feedback I received, suggested that as this was...

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Joel Irwin

Nice stuff Jonathan. And now I want to get a bit 'techie'. This may be splitting hairs and not be exactly what other people call 'countermelody'. But here is my take - for me, melody moves so when the...

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Jonathan Price

Yep, that's why I posted RUSTIN. It's not a traditional sense of counter-melody but, strictly speaking, any good counterpoint contains counter-melodies. In RUSTIN, you could take the VLN II/VLA line a...

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Kerry Kennard

Joel, I was trying to relate to ... no need to have more than one instrument/staff playing counter-melody at a time, ... to how Dorico handles notes. Know you're going for the Counter-Melody and music...

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Johnny Sutherland

Could you message me a sample of your composition?

Joel Irwin

Johnny, who are you asking for the sample and are you looking to listen or get the score?

Joel Irwin
Note Performer

Does anyone use this with Sibelius? My composition teacher has been after me for over a year to get it and use it as a way to test out/play back scores before printing charts for live performances.

If you have it do you use it for anything else? Is the playback good enough for electronic scoring?

Here...

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Kerry Kennard

Have not heard sounds, or program Joel.

Though, Dorico could be another option.

Steinberg Dorico can use your current sounds.

1.2 is our now and does percussion writing. Now. May be worth the Trial to ch...

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Brian Alan DeLaney

I use Sibelius to write everything. I write everything in notation and then export the MIDI data to Logic for playback with my sample sets. I love it. I used it when I started writing a long time ago,...

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Jonathan Price

I use Finale myself, and don't own NotePerformer. I've heard some demos with NotePerformer, though. For a quick playback I suppose it's fine. I haven't found any demos that could pass as a decent elec...

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Joel Irwin

Jonathan - I agree. Much better for use to demo or do a quick listen to a jazz chart. I purchased it because it seemed to do a better job at allowing me to use standard drum notation.

I have since purc...

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Joseph Luna
Costs to Adapt Existing Film Music

Hi!

For our film, Star Wars High, we want to do cover versions (80's new wave style) of Star Wars soundtrack themes. How much would this cost for our very low-budget indie featurette? (Depending on the price, we may do similar, free and legal takeoffs.)

Thanks!

Steven Harris Anzelowitz

I would go right to the ASCAP web site for more info

Joel Irwin

I do not think the PROs (like ascap) will help much on this unless you are performing just the cover music live or online (like from a soundtrack album). PROs don't normally get involved in synchroniz...

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Ingrid Goldberg
Screenwriter's question

I am writing an experimental art piece about unwanted children and heard a piece of music by a living composer that is perfect for the beginning sequence . Do I have to ask his permission to use it?

Joel Irwin

for film you must get a sync license from the composer/copyright owner. If you use a pre-recorded track, you also need a "master use" license from the publisher/record company. If you are not includin...

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Ingrid Goldberg

Hi Joel, Thank you for your in depth answer. If I write to the composer and he gives me his written permission will that suffice ? I am just a lone person with no company attached.

Joel Irwin

Make sure that you have something legally sound which specifies exactly what you can or can not do and what the cost is (or that it is no cost). Otherwise, you may risk the possibility of getting into...

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Ingrid Goldberg

Wow! Thanks again, Joel, for your expertise . It sounds like it's better to try and find a new composer to collaborate with from the start. This piece is 90% images and music .

Joel Irwin

there are enough people here who would offer their services. good luck.

Joel Irwin
Stereo Soundtrack Ends Up Sounding Mono

I just posted this in Facebook but seems relavant here as well. This has happened to me in at least three of the films I have scored in recent years.

Here is a heads up for anyone doing their editing using Avid. I have had one film this year and recently a version of a 2015 film play back in "mono" i...

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Ken Koh

It's a phase problem not an avid problem, look in the audio suite and use 'invert' that'll solve it. Could be the way your camera converts the audio or whatever software compression you're using. If not, check your wiring could be wired incorrectly internally it's happened before to me once.

Joel Irwin

Ken - not sure I understand your point. I write music and supply it normally to the audio editor as a single 16-bit WAV file (mostly 44.1 but sometimes 48). Most of the time, the audio editor mixes it...

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Ken Koh

What daw are you using?

Joel Irwin
Do You Live In LA?

This is part of an email convesation I had one week ago today:

I saw a posting for acting auditions and sent a message to the production company asking if they needed a composer on that project.

The subject of the emails (their subject, not mine) was, "Composer, Yes!"

XXX FILMS:

>Perfect timing, Joel! ...

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Jakub Micuch

Hi Joel, yes this is sad true. People are afraid in some way from online collaboration. I don't know why. But. Today with possibilities of technology which we have it doesn't make sence. I worked for...

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Joel Irwin
The Man Hiding Behind The Curtain

In the film business, especially us composers, we present our artistic products in front of a live audience in abstentia.  Its like being in my opinion 'the man behind the curtain' (aka Wizard Of Oz).  That protects us in some sense but also insulates us from participation with the audience.  It is...

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Matthew Pittaway

any relation to shane irwin producer in Nashville?

Matthew Pittaway

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Wesley Lawrence Curry II
Doodles (One)

Just doodling around, I don't know if any of you composers do this...you know...just get to feeling like playing your instrument with absolutely no particular 'job' or reason for it other than the joy of playing music. https://clyp.it/5m4lzdsj

Wesley Lawrence Curry II

Here Is a picture of my piano. I sometimes wonder what would have happened if I had gotten Bagpipes instead.

Wesley Dinwiddie

Ah yes :) the Hip-Hop artists piano (no offense to anyone who writes hip-hop of course)

Wesley Lawrence Curry II

I use it to to practice scales.

Matthew Pittaway

I hear music in my head. I have over 100 copyrights. I compose classical to rock, jazz to blues, pop to punk. I however cannot get a job they say I am autistic savant I say everyone here is stupid as mud. Lets collaborate http://www.hishousemedia.com

Joel Irwin
Why Piano?

Many of us (including me) got our musical start on either piano or guitar.  So two things are very natural as we have moved toward film composing - (1) we tend to rely heavily on the instrument we are most comfortable with and (2) we tend to make any other instruments or sounds through our experienc...

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Sampletekk
Sampletekk
We have started this page so you can compare all the pianos we have in our range. We are currently working on it, so more pianos will be added daily. Please note that you can't buy anything on this pa…
Joel Irwin

postscript - having thought about this for the last day, I decided to upgrade from the entry version of Sampletekk's C7 to its full version "7CG MKII for $50 (prices currently 50% off, a full non-upgr...

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Bruce Bray

I am a guitar player, but I use the piano just as much. I find the piano is so suited to moving around the melody. At least getting the first notes that I have in my head down. But once I have that, I...

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Kerry Kennard

This one submission for HL, I wrote using piano and violin first, after listening to other examples. Playing drums, it was last this time, adding Timpani for added effects within piece.

If I’m doing j...

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