1. At the time of the filming. The cgi scene does not have any "regular" shots. Instead, they take the place of the regular shooting. The regular shooting never occurs.
2. At the time of the filming.. The regular scene is shot, then a completely different cgi scene is mixed in with the film, eliminating the regular scene.
3. During or after the regular filming of the scene is shot. The CGI scene is made and inserted into the film. It does not include any of the regular shooting. In fact, there is no regular shooting of the scene is made at all.
4. After the regular filming is shot. The CGI scene is then made and inserted into the film. It does include the regular shooting.
5. None of the above are correct. The CGI is made, and / or when.... (fill in the blanks
thanks everyone... stephen thor
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all of the above. VFX Flame Artists can fix any screw-up shot.
"Fix it in post."
Thanks for the replies. Not familiar with VFX Dan, I will look it up. Chad, I have no idea of what you mean. "Fix it in post"? Fix what? What is "it". How? Please be more specific if you can. I do appreciate the answer, but I do not comprehend it. I have never produced my own movie before, so please excuse the ignorance. Please remember that I am after only about 5 minutes of CGI in an indie movie which will be only about an hour long, if that.
VFX= visual effects, CGI is the old term for VFX (no one really uses the term CGI anymore); SFX = special effects (practical effects, rain, wind, water flowing in sink , campfire, busted pipe with water spraying, fog moving on a set, the door closes on it's own (because the ghost pushed it)
Stephen, concentrate on doing your level best in camera during the shoot and don't rely on being able to 'fix' anything in post. VFX & CGI are essentially the same thing - in the real old days, we just called it FX (I still do).
Stephen Thor Sorry Stephen for being so vague. "Fix it in post." is a filmmaking trope long used for if there's a mistake in a shot or a boom mike in frame or sequence, etc. that in post production after primary shooting is completed, you'll fix the problem then.
In the past it would be via looping dialogue or pressing in a shot or using an alternate angle shot vs. the primary camera, etc.
I was commenting on Dan's statement that VFX artists are used a lot to fix things or can be used to "fix it in post".
Again, sorry if I was a bit vague.
Thanks for the replies. So if I understand correctly, do the shoot without SPX, CGI, whatever it is called, without ANY concern about PSX. In other words, a film shot today in "regular" or normal mode is fine, then worry about the SFX later, right? Thanks for the correction in the term.
The reason I ask is that the spx effect I have in mind involves a stationary object. I would need, using spx, to:
1. enlarge the object for a short time ( 5 minutes at most), which is a statue, to about twice its size. It essentially "comes to life" for a short time.
2. have the object, which has a dull finish, be able to "shed" its dull finish into a bright gold color, starting from head to toe Along the way various jewels on the statue would reveal themselves brightly (they are already on the statute but in a dull finish)
3. have the statute "move" a couple of feet forward, to where it is floating in air about a foot above the ground.
4. Be able for the object to "shoot" various or differing beams or rays of light, in different colors, etc. from it, from different parts of the object..
I assure you that I am serious about all of this and you are not wasting your time by giving constructive advice.
So, keeping all of that in mind, what we are saying is just shoot the stationary object where it is at, as if SPX is not involved, and then add in all those SPX later, right?
Thanks... Stephen Thor
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No need to apologize Chad, as I have always been a screenwriter and completely ignorant of film production, thanks for clearing it up. To the rest, I appreciate all replies. A thanks to M L as well, I will check that out immediately after this post. My plan, if I can afford it, is to hire a local film production crew, who has seen and done it all already. I have found at least one such crew in the Philappines that seems to fit the bill. To anyone who thinks that I am after cheaper rates by filming in another country, well, you are partially correct, but the main thing is that past events covering the same topic has occurred in the Philippines so it would be natural to film in the same country of origin. This is likely to be my last "big" venture and I wish it to be done properly and professional. Why am I doing it in the first place? Well, in part, how many times have you watched a film and thought to yourself "I could do a movie better than that". I just hope people don't see my production and then think the same thing haha.
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Holy Toledo M L, that was incredible. I am an amateur WW2 historian, have about 100 dvds on the subject and my Roku gives me more than even I can handle. BTW, I have the series "The Pacific" in its metal box container, so it was a perfect example. Sort of like the pacific version of the band of brothers. That was the best example I have ever seen before. Thanks again... Stephen Thor