Or in other words, how to make the planet look like it’s been left unattended for 28 years! I haven’t seen it yet, as I’m locked away on a Mediterranean island and not allowed to use the internet. Save for this, but no one knows. Sssshhhh!
Have you seen the film yet? What were your thoughts about the VFX in those natural environments?
Matrix fans - you’ll see that some of the camera tech, looks very familiar…
https://www.screenglobalproduction.com/news/2025/07/02/28-years-later-ad...
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Hi, Geoff Hall. I haven't seen 28 Years Later yet, but I plan on watching it soon. I saved your post to come back to. I'll keep an eye out for the VFX.
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Haven’t seen it yet either — but really looking forward to how they’ve visualized the passage of 28 years, especially through nature reclaiming human spaces. I'm also curious: do you think the movie was always planned as a continuation of the original story arc, was waiting this long their plan, or was it more of a response to how much post-apocalyptic themes resonate today? Sometimes a sequel hits harder because it's waited.
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Maurice Vaughan thanks Maurice. I know the area (Kielder Forest) that it was filmed in and it can look pretty wild anyway. I look forward to seeing how it looks and hearing from you too.
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Yaşar Taşbaş
Hi Yaşar, I think the original was a bit of a punt, so I don’t believe it was part of a long-term plan. However, it may have been a twinkle in Danny Boyle’s eyes. Who knows? I’ll have to check out the BTS videos and interviews.
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You're welcome, Geoff Hall. I might see it this week.
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Maurice Vaughan Yaşar Taşbaş I’m going to watch this on Wednesday night. I’ve managed to find someone who will go with me to see it! I’m full of eager anticipation.
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That’s awesome, Geoff! If only you had covered my flight to the U.S., I would’ve been your movie buddy — popcorn and tickets on me, of course! :))
Excited to hear what you think after watching it. Fingers crossed it lives up to the hype!
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I might watch it Wednesday night too, Geoff Hall. I read that it made $138MM at the box office.
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Yaşar Taşbaş hahaha! One of these days! Wouldn’t that be the ultimate trip, Yaşar! It’d be interesting to see what the Visa people made of it. Why are you coming to the UK? To watch a movie with a friend, have a soda and some popcorn.
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Maurice Vaughan well, that’s nearly 2.5x the budget, so the ratio is getting better. Let me know what you think, after you’ve seen it, please Maurice.
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Ok, I will, Geoff Hall.
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I was lucky enough to be able to see it in preview, I'm in France and I was able to see it with my friends and everyone loved it!
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Reflections on the Evolution of the Undead in Film:
The latest entry in the 28 Days Later franchise—set 28 years after the original—was... cute. Not in a dismissive way, but in the sense that it leaned more into thematic closure and the emotional aftermath of catastrophe, rather than the raw terror that defined its predecessors. The film felt like a meditation on moving on—from trauma, from disaster, and from history itself. It introduced new characters, clearly with an eye toward rebooting or expanding the universe in future installments. But for now, "cute" is where I’ll leave it.
When held up against something like Handling the Undead, however, the contrast is stark. That film offers a quieter, more philosophical take—focusing less on infection or mutation and more on the existential implications of life returning in unnatural ways. It's less about survival and more about grief, denial, and what it means to be alive.
In undead cinema, there’s a crucial difference between narratives of reanimation and those of viral transformation. The 28 Days Later series introduced the concept of the "rage virus"—not traditional zombies, but hyper-violent infected. It was revolutionary for its time, grounded more in virology and behavioral collapse than supernatural horror. By the time we reach 28 Years Later, the narrative pivots to evolutionary stabilization—introducing "special DNA" as a possible breakthrough or warning, offering hints of genetic adaptation that carry the potential for either salvation or new threat.
Compare this to The Walking Dead, especially in its early seasons. At first glance, it leans into classic zombie tropes, but there’s a deeper biological and psychological puzzle underneath. In this world, people are infected long before death—everyone is. But it takes a traumatic death or bite from an infected (where the virus overloads the system) to trigger full transformation. Those fed upon truly die, while the infected—cut off from nutritional intake and sustained biological function—eventually succumb as their bodies decay, unable to support life.
What results is a paradox: the reanimated dead are controlled not by a soul or consciousness, but by a virus hijacking the brain. But it's not the entire brain. The virus severs the connection to the higher-level regions—cognition, empathy, morality—leaving only the primal instincts intact. What’s left is a husk driven by parasitic programming: wander, feed, survive. They become less than animals, roaming in herds not for cooperation but because of shared stimulus-response behaviors.
Interestingly, the show never fully explains the timeline or mechanism of true death—how long before reanimation, how the virus keeps decaying tissue semi-functional. It's part of the show’s greater mystery, a kind of narrative fog that keeps the horror unsettling. The only constant: a blow to the brain, in any area, ends it permanently. That detail—simple, brutal—serves as a visceral metaphor for how fragile the human identity truly is when the biological tether is broken.
In many ways, The Walking Dead depicts the virus not just as an infection, but as a parasitic force in survival mode—using the host to perpetuate itself, and adapting with disturbing effectiveness. There’s even a touch of tragic symbiosis; the virus can't thrive without a host, but the host loses everything that made it human.
Ultimately, the most compelling undead stories aren’t about gore or action—they’re about control, identity, and the unsettling idea that the mind can vanish before the body does. Whether driven by rage, mutation, or resurrection, these narratives remind us that horror often lies not in death—but in what follows after.
John Gostomski thank you for sharing your reflections on the undead films. I’m wondering from 28YL, how long the virus and those infected, mutated can last?
An interesting thread was the birth of the child from a copulating couple and how the uterus protected it from the virus. Will this be an important thread going forward with the franchise?
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Maurice Vaughan here you go Maurice. Well, what did you think?
I went with a friend who is my son’s age, so quite the difference in age and taste in films (to some extent). At the end we both looked at each other and went, “Well, that was weird.”
We both felt a little underwhelmed, or maybe just ‘whelmed’! It felt to me that it was a film looking for a story and was content in providing us with fodder for what was to come and not really feeling like a well sutured story.
I also thought that the projectile blood vomiting was a missed opportunity for a Dominos Pizza product placement. I did however chuckle at the Shell/hell garage reference!!
The highlights for me gravitated around Ralph Fiennes and his momento mori scenes and then Jodie Comer, eventually got something to sink her teeth into later in the film, where in the early scenes she was limited to mainly groaning in pain.
Overall it felt fragmented, almost like a pastiche of overplayed zombie tropes. However, we did come away feeling it was worth watching and quite the spectacle.
The final scene was shot in the Cheddar Gorge, close to where I live, and both my new zombie film friend, Tom and I wondered what on earth that was about? Although it was well-seeded from the earlier scene in the church with the upside-down shadow of the cross. What left us with a What the…moment was the fact that they all looked like Swedish Abba trolls, or perhaps extras who had escaped from the set of Mamma Mia?!!
What are your thoughts please, Maurice?
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Hey, Geoff Hall. I haven't seen the movie yet. I'm skipping the comments until I see it in case there's any details about the movie or spoilers.
On Hope, Infection, and Diverging Futures in 28 Years Later
The placenta acts as a natural filter—but in the context of 28 Years Later, that function takes on a symbolic weight. The film suggests hope in the birth of a child, but to me, a deeper question lingers: if blood is the carrier of the Rage Virus, could the child have been infected in utero or during the birthing process? It isn’t written that way in the film, so we set that possibility aside—for now. But the implication opens the door for future plotlines, especially if the child becomes an asymptomatic carrier. The isolated town’s folk may one day face the consequences of what seemed like a miracle. There are so many possibilities—but in storytelling, possibilities must be funneled into limited, deliberate choices.
The film leans into the mythos of hope, embodied in the figure of the doctor—a survivor with limited medical knowledge who now walks the line between science and shamanism. His “totem of souls” is both literal and metaphoric: a symbol of lost lives, collapsed civilizations, and a world under enforced quarantine. His survival reflects both tragedy and adaptation—one man who has reverted to ritual in the face of scientific failure.
Globally, the aftermath was presumed safe. Authorities assumed the infected had died off from starvation, leading to a premature reoccupation of the territory. But the survivors—potential carriers—were overlooked. The virus endured, sparking a renewed outbreak. This error in judgment mirrors historical military strategies: a blitzkrieg driven by assumption, poor intelligence, and the underestimation of a resilient enemy. Anyone who knows their history understands that such missteps occur either through rushed early planning or after a hammer blow has already shattered the front.
28 Years Later reveals a sobering truth: medical science could not undo what medical science had helped unleash. No robust containment plans. No real preventative systems. No foresight. The consequences were left to chance, myth, and survivors with fading memories.
This theme inspired the concept for my own script: "Plague State: Battle for the Peninsula"—a speculative future set 28 years further on, where a new generation of scientists and biologists sift through declassified military records and war logs from the British Isles and the European mainland. The goal: to understand what truly happened and whether the so-called victory was ever real.
There’s a historical echo here—the way Europe once emerged from the devastation of the Black Plague (1346–1353). The doctor in 28 Years Later seems to echo that era’s plague doctors, resigned to tending the dead. Yet what stands out is the ambiguity surrounding his care for the living. Was there any? Or had survival become a matter of ritual, rather than redemption?
Unlike the bubonic plague, the Rage Virus overtakes its victims with frightening speed. It’s still a pandemic, but of a different psychological and narrative flavor. This is a story of survivors—cut off from the outside world, not by force, but by choice. They live with the silence, with the unknown, and with the heavy burden of not being rescued.
Curiouser and curiouser, as the mind wanders into those veiled, unsettling moments where the director may not have intended to lead—but the viewer, pulled by implication and emotion, goes anyway. That’s where this film lives now—not just in what it showed, but in what it left unsaid. And yes, strangely enough, it was… cute.
Started explanding on "Plague State: Battle for the Penisula" where would I focus on getting it looked at and read! Creative writing at the time of creative writing! John Gostomski
Reflections on “Rage,” Rebellion, and Viral Collapse in 28 Days Later (with echoes from 12 Monkeys)
Geoff: I’ve been thinking more about the scientific and philosophical origins of the Rage Virus in 28 Days Later. If you recall, the very first film opens with a disturbing scene: a chimpanzee strapped down, its eyes forced open, subjected to a relentless stream of violent human imagery—protests, riots, bloodshed. It’s not just a horror trope—it’s a thematic signal.
The scientists in the film refer to the virus as “Rage,” but there’s a deeper suggestion: the virus doesn’t simply cause uncontrollable aggression. It amplifies a vulnerability to psychological imprinting. In other words, it reacts to what you see—what you’re exposed to emotionally—before it alters your behavior. The chimp was force-fed images of human violence, likely under the assumption that this visual conditioning could “encode” or trigger specific neurological responses. What’s chilling is the implication: the virus is not just biological, it’s ideological. It mirrors the violence in us.
The imagery the chimp is exposed to isn't random. It seems to reflect scenes of civil unrest in democratic societies—protests against systems perceived as oppressive. These systems weren’t necessarily the originators of violence but reacted to it. Whether the footage came from Spain, France, or even Los Angeles, it captured moments where modern society teetered on the edge of control—where emotional protest morphed into chaos. That’s the essence of blind rage: not pure hatred, but the collapse of reason under pressure.
This is the core of the first film: rage as a reaction to emotional overload and social breakdown. The infection becomes the metaphor. It’s not about a traditional virus, but a mirror to a society that fails to regulate itself—where protests, unrest, and division give way to raw instinct.
Using a chimpanzee as a test subject raises its own moral complications. Chimps don’t understand human imagery the way we do. But in scientific research, it’s common to monitor brainwave patterns in response to emotional stimuli. The experiment in the film was likely built around triggering and mapping aggression—perhaps even justifying continued funding by demonstrating measurable “rage responses.” What’s more, the security breach that allowed the animal rights activists to release the chimp wasn’t accidental. It had to be an inside job—someone compromised internal security long before the activists ever broke in.
While contemplating these subtler elements—the in-between moments the director doesn’t spell out—I found myself thinking of 12 Monkeys. That film, though more meditative and less graphically violent, shares thematic DNA with 28 Days Later. In 12 Monkeys, animal rights activists are also initially blamed for the global pandemic. The virus, its origin, and its spread are wrapped in uncertainty and time loops, but the underlying fear is the same: that ideology, biology, and human nature can combine to wipe out civilization.
Both films explore how misdirected emotion and compromised systems can lead to catastrophic outcomes. 12 Monkeys is slower, more cerebral; 28 Days Later is raw and immediate. But both highlight how easily the world can unravel when science, ethics, and emotion collide.
Followup:
1. The Alpha-Omega-Alpha Cycle: Narrative as Cultural Reset
This cycle speaks to:
Creation (Alpha) — a world is built, rules are set.
Destruction or Corruption (Omega) — something breaks those rules: plague, monsters, madness, aliens, a god, or even man himself.
Rebirth through Struggle (Alpha again) — a new version of the world is formed through the ashes of the old.
This is not just biblical (e.g., Revelation) or mythic (e.g., Ragnarok). It’s a core screenwriting device for horror, dystopia, and sci-fi:
Film Alpha Omega New Alpha
Serenity: The Alliance's control inadvertently creates the Reavers as chaos incarnate The truth revealed, a spark of rebellion
28 Days Later: Normal British society Rage virus outbreak Possible new beginning
Children of Men: A world without birth, total societal collapse then birth of a new generation
The Road Post-apocalyptic: silence cannibalism, lawlessness A child’s survival, hope
The Shadow (1994) Dual identity Evil doppelgänger Triumph of repressed good
2.In horror, the unseen observer—the camera—often acts as a silent character:
A predatory eye (as in Halloween’s opening POV shot).
A voyeuristic recorder (e.g., Paranormal Activity, REC).
A witness for the monster or the audience itself.
The presence of a “cameraperson,” even if metaphorical, taps into our guilt as viewers. We’re watching suffering for entertainment—how different is that from the killer watching his tapes?
This meta layer makes horror psychologically disarming. We don't just fear the monster; we fear ourselves for watching it.
3. In peace and prosperity (post-WWII democratic societies), the monster becomes necessary:
Not just for fear, but to awaken moral decay, laziness, or disconnection.
“The boogeyman is under the bed” is a metaphor for:
Societal shadow (poverty, war, injustice).
Inner shadow (repression, violence, addiction).
The horror genre externalizes the unseen — that which we don’t want to look at.
Monsters become moral alarms. Not just evil — but the cost of forgetting.
4. Perspective for Aspiring Writers
Cinema and storytelling—especially post-WWII—are steeped in the struggle between order and chaos, history and amnesia of the what happened before with "Who controls the present without teaching history contol the future narrative" but since on this planet all things are relative, entropy has a hand in the repeatability of that which I named the historical present!
Conclusion: Horror as Myth, Mirror, and Moral Compass
From Serenity to 28 Years Later to “the cameraperson’s dark purpose” — is not just horror, but a coded mythic language for people to:
Rebuild a broken world.
Explore the forbidden.
Accept that behind peace, there is always a cost.
If you’re working on a story or script from this perspective, you're not just entertaining — you're tapping into an eternal human need to be warned, reformed, and reborn.
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Geoff Hall - Thanks for sharing, someone was just recommending this movie. I'll watch the movie prior to this, don't want to spoil it.
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Cyrus Sales Hi Cyrus, please add your thought here. It will be great to know what you think of the film.
Beginning of a universe!
Geoff Hall I will come back and share my thoughts once I watch it. Might have some time Friday evening.