We know undeniably AI is now a prominent subject,
Q; What happens when AI meets CGI?
and even more important..
Q; When both mentioned factions meets Actors and more. In other words,
“to approach the inevitable”?…
Q; How prepared then and “anticipated” are you?
I present to you: How do you filmmakers see these entire subjects and relations being included in your budget and planning?
I have long awaited anticipations!
With so much going on in the industry my predictions are the presented, obviously and certainly are going to be unavoidable subject and subjects
PS: look at the video in the link therefore just to get a synopsis of what I am eluding to.
https://www.stage32.com/lounge/promotion/The-Fourth-Conceptual-Video
It’s a little demonstration of in-house techniques with what is to come and also advertising a fourth and final video for a fellow stage 32 member and project.
Implementation theoretically into industry, for discussions and budgeting for a film. What type of software talent etc. to employ, also comes to mind, with cost factors. Regardless of quality in the video. However, that being said with more time the CGI input can become even more realistic and ultimately for big budget productions.
Besides the topic of In-house techniques applied CGI and AI are going to be a much explored future with benefits budget-wise and where focus will have to be paid in productions etc.
Industry matters are intensifying in many aspects. How things are done etc, only this time it’s not just "AI" but "AI" meets "CGI" meets Actor, Stunt Personals and more!
It is so commendable also for stage 32 officials highlighting the different educational posts and more, which includes VFX vs CGI vs SFX,, so that assessment can be attained for relevance and clarifications.
https://www.stage32.com/lounge/post_production/VFX-vs-CGI-vs-SFX-What-s-...
Software costs and talent by hiring or personal skills and training all to be considered!
Eager to see the discussions and comments.
Until next…As the saying goes…Happy filmmaking!
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Eon C. Rambally It's here and not an effective tool for less than talented creators. Below I link to a recent music video combining live action, CGI and AI generated elements, posted on Kling AI and ostensibly (but possibly not) created with the use of Kling as a tool. It's amusing to me how perplexed the retail users of the Kling platform are when watching this - they can't figure out how it is done. It's worth a watch.
https://app.klingai.com/global/ai-shorts-video/sorrow-flowers-white-bone...
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Eon C. Rambally thanks for this, Eon.
How do you filmmakers see these entire subjects and relations being included in your budget and planning?
One small example from my working on Seeing Rachel. We are looking at the potential and affordability of using Virtual Production (VP) on the film to see if we can reduce location costs.
It is not something that I have any experience of, but the two VP pop-up studios that I’ve contacted have been really helpful with me, as someone who has never worked with VP before.
I hope this gets the conversation started!
Shadow Dragu-Mihai, it's not for the average user and enthusiasts, when coming to profits . The video addresses my second question for discussions, "What happens when both factions (CGI & AI) meets Actors and more"? and of course the third question "How anticipated are you"? The vid. looks like a combination of three you also mentioned in your previous comments along with Puppeteering (Practical Effects). In-house techniques in putting all content together, then time factor with talented team effort.
Most thankful for showing the video and link. It’s exactly what I’m talking about and criteria for "Raising the bar" also in one of your comments and certainly what is needed.
In-house technique, therefore becomes the answer(s) to what confuses and eludes the perspective "retail users"!
Again I ask everyone interested "How anticipated are you"? When CGI meets AI meets Actors, Stunt Personals. and more?
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Geoff Hall, you're most welcome! Location cost is certainly an element in the production to pay attention to . VP has dynamic statistics. It's an excellent move! Also different talent are adaptable to various softwares, Tech. etc.. It again uniquely comes down to In-house techniques and most importantly dedication and commitment.
Certainly subject(s) to get a conversation going!
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Eon C. Rambally locations are a six-figure item on our budget. My co-producer thinks we should control the filming environment as much as possible and VP gives us the opportunity to do so.
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Understood, Geoff Hall! It's why I have experimented over a number of years, with different techniques, software and much research. A breakthrough is what I've encountered! Need that collaborative effort , with the various methods and more!
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Eon C. Rambally yes, to the ‘collaborative effort’. I think I’ll be visiting the companies offering the VP services, just so I can make a considered decision. It would be good to rub shoulders with the people you may be spending a few weeks with, during production.
Got that Geoff Hall. I recall one of Sandra' Isabel Correia's post and discussion, about software producing a virtual world. Depending on the scene, may need to also incorporate and revisit that discussion to properly regulate cost factors.
Of course to re-iterate, congratulations on having her as Executive Producer , for the film!
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CGI, VFX and SFX have long been part of our lives — remember La La Land, Life of Pi, Dune, Avatar, Gravity — Cameron, Nolan — they’re all still in the game and “holding” the whole process — nobody died, they’re all alive! What’s with the sadness and the fears?! We all stopped walking — switched to cars to be faster, gave up landlines to be better informed... you get it, this must be accepted as a given. We live in the digital age; tools are becoming more accessible, but quality remains with the masters of the craft: directors, DPs, makeup artists, actors.
And why did someone decide that realism automatically means bigger budgets?! On the contrary: the rise of AI and automation has historically led to a reduction in routine costs. That frees up resources — and two paths open up: either the money saved goes into mass-produced uniformity, or the freed budget is reallocated around meaning, acting and auteur direction. If you want shoddy work — Upwork will help you: cheap and nasty. If you shoot from the heart — that’s a different league. Money goes where story and ambition demand it. If the industry has chosen savings and hype over craft — no amount of “AI-realism” will bring about an artistic revival. Nothing to mourn here.
Clearly every craftsman needs specific equipment, but at the same time, visual effects are not a “costly budget” as you claimed, because (see above) they are a tool that leads to lowering routine costs in film production. Big-budget status won’t appear just because images become “a bit more realistic” with AI and CGI. When I read phrases like “regardless of video quality” and “this will lead to high-budget projects,” I feel sad and want to be angry at the same time. That statement reflects not realism but a dangerous confusion of categories: idea ≠ tool, budget ≠ craft, trend ≠ meaning. By the way, CGI, VFX and SFX are different crafts (for those unaware), and quality is not only pixels. It’s the understanding of light, composition, an actor’s texture and the dramaturgy of the frame. AI and CGI are tools — and only tools!!!! A tool does not give birth to a poet. It does only what you put into it. PERIOD.
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Asl Seil, you’re most welcomed and great seeing you here on this platform. You did bring relevant subjects of concerns. The masters of crafts do hold the ultimate secrets to software use in general and it’s why I mentioned about in-house techniques
Just to note: Stage 32 has offered many courses, blogs etc. on relevant education, which includes VFX vs CGI vs SFX, which I gave in the second link in post above.
With all clarity and concerns of industrial matters The real immediate focus is planning a very precise budget. Therefore, really meant whether or not the venture is costly, no claim otherwise, it is still part of budgeting and adds up to overall cost factors and as you know, If not careful the little various expenditures can sum up to undue overall cost.
Therefore, many perspectives and look at every angle with closest of budgets to attract investors and to assure them that the job can be done, within the allocated budget. is of main objectives. Technicalities understood!
Will like your opinion on the two videos in the provided links. above.
Your input is welcomed!